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06-24-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
SHEA STADIUM, NY – It was reported yesterday that Jerry Manuel alluded to an unflattering characterization of Shea Stadium baseball fans as fertilizer. Sorry for the qualified description of his quote but it’s hard to figure out exactly what he meant and how to interpret it. Manuel promptly asked the news outlets to “forget” the quote and to please not run with it. The editorial staff of the New York Post made it front-page and was more than happy to not comply with his request. We too, here at Meet the Matts, felt is was at least worthy of an editorial and some discussion in light of a game winning, 2nd inning, error responsible, ace tossing, grand slam by the opposing pitcher who hadn’t had an at bat this year.
Whew.

Are we dung? Excrement? Poop? Compost? Manure?

We are certainly hard on our franchises here in the Big Apple but, with a few exceptions, are some of the most passionate, informed and enthusiastic fans in the country. The topic has been covered here, maybe ad nausea, but the new description gives it another angle. Manuel, in his Ozzie Guillenesque way, is not afraid to say what’s on his mind, ruffling feathers along the way. He tried to spin his words to explain how fertilizer makes a garden grow. "Fertilizer is a good thing," Manuel said. "It's a good thing. You get the greatest results - get the most beautiful plants - when you put it in that type of fertile soil. That's what we have the opportunity to do."

The last time we heard silly gardening analogies like this was in Hal Ashby’s “Being There.” Peter Sellers, a simple minded Washington DC gardener named Chance, is thrust into formidable political circles as Chauncey Gardener, becoming a trusted advisor and confidant to powerful figures. Chance makes simple, deadpanned gardening truisms. These uncomplicated metaphors convince Washington’s elite that he is a pundit to be reckoned with.

President "Bobby": Mr. Gardner, do you agree with Ben, or do you think that we can stimulate growth through temporary incentives?
[Long pause]

Chance the Gardener: As long as the roots are not severed, all is well. And all will be well in the garden.

President "Bobby": In the garden.

Chance the Gardener: Yes. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again.

President "Bobby": Spring and summer.

Chance the Gardener: Yes.

President "Bobby": Then fall and winter.

Chance the Gardener: Yes.

Benjamin Rand: I think what our insightful young friend is saying is that we welcome the inevitable seasons of nature, but we're upset by the seasons of our economy.

Chance the Gardener: Yes! There will be growth in the spring!

We encourage Met fans to not be slighted by Jerry’s off color description of them. A good dose of sunlight and quenching water will help our garden, so we can raise healthy plants. Part of the process will be proper fertilization so our garden will prosper. Summer is the best time to fertilize and, with good management, we may reap a quality fall harvest. We are not past being the fertilizer for a healthy garden- if it produces a wonderful bounty. We like to watch.

ANGRYWARD
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06-24-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
Matts. I absolutely love the "Being There" reference. A great movie. I can only hope people like Dude, Rex O'Rourke, and Sam's-a-Fan have seen this one. The outtakes at the end of this one are also brilliant. It's a film that you will "like to watch." One other thing, the Manuel "fertilizer' quote was blown way out of proportion but, just the same, should we start calling him Jerry Manure, for laughs?
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06-24-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
For a mistaken moment I thought that the Being There end credits, which as Ward mentioned are brilliant, Peter Sellers' character keeps flubbing his line about some guy named Manuel but it was actually Rafael (maybe Santana?)
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06-24-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
yes, ward the dude ranks being there amongst the classics. "I am a very good gardener" peter sellers is a genius. and i agree ther post has blown this whole fertilizer thing WAY out of proportion. however the team looked like doo-doo last night. I still like jerry's off the cuff comments, outrageous is good. however the team winning is better. a suggestion i saw on metsblog: the shea crowd should chant jerrys name over and over like jerry springer as soon as he gets into an umpire's face. also suggested the new mets victory song: damn it feels good to be a gangsta (featured in office space-- another more modern classic)
Hank from Ronkonkoma
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06-24-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
Fertilizer? do I look like Fertilizer? Get on a real winning streak and you can start insulting the fan base.
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06-24-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
Here's another entry from the ever-present Useless Trivia Department -

Everyone loved the out-takes at the end of the film (...you tell...Rafael...), except one person: PETER SELLERS. I read a biography on him, and he was furious they were included, and later, when he lost the Oscar that he expected to win, he blamed the bloopers on "breaking the spell," and costing him the award.
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