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ANGRYWARD
Posts:515

06-17-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
(Too Angry. Must organize thoughts. Will try to get it all down for tomorrow's post. In the meantime, no pants.)
Mike Vaccaro
Posts:1

06-17-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
June 17, 2008 --
ANAHEIM – The e-mail was time-stamped 3:14 a.m., Eastern time. In a simpler time, in a different world, maybe the Mets would have succeeded completely in this cowardly purge of their baseball team. Maybe then they would have been able to hold off on telling everybody what they'd planned to do until long past their vessels in the media were fast asleep.
Ah, but there is this wonderful thing known as the Internet now, and here we are, telling you that while you were sleeping, at 3:14 a.m. New York time, at 12:14 a.m. California time, two hours after the Mets beat the Angels 9-6, the Mets finally got around to firing Willie Randolph.
Maybe that seems a simple proclamation. Maybe you think everyone knows about the Internet. Well, the men who run the Mets are quite obviously simple men, and sinister men, cowards cloaked in "no comments," who have seen the way their baseball team has performed this year obviously decided: People don't just need to be fired.
They need to be humiliated.
What a crowd, these bums are, all of them, from the Wilpons at the top to Omar Minaya down below, all of them who conspired to botch this firing worse than any firing has ever been botched. Ever. You wouldn't trust these guys to run a 7-11, let alone a National League baseball team. What a joke. What a cowardly, dastardly joke.
A midnight massacre.
A 3 a.m. thrashing.
Disgraceful. Utterly, completely, disgraceful.
And here's the ridiculous part: They could have gone through the transaction of what they did – firing Randolph, firing Rick Peterson, firing Tom Nieto, elevating Jerry Manuel and Ken Oberkfell and Luis Aguayo and Dan Warthen, at any time across the past few weeks and they would have been perfectly justified.
Hell, if they wanted to raze the whole staff last October, after the epic collapse of September, that would have been all right, too. You may not have agreed with it (although a loud segment of Mets fans surely would have). But that would have simply been a baseball decision. And the baseball was enough to warrant it.
This? This is unspeakable. These men couldn't have been fired in New York, before heading on a plane and flying 3,000 miles to their doom? They couldn't have been spared the ignominy of a public perp walk back east, their dignity thrown into their carry-on luggage?
Really?
Is this the best the Mets can do? Is this really what they are about? Can they really consider themselves a professional operation when they do the simplest task in sports, firing the manager, this wretchedly?
It's entirely possible that Randolph fell on his sword over this one, because it was being swirled that he would be spared and his coaches sacrificed, and if that indeed happened, we will laud him and praise him for that later on. Randolph was never going to be confused with John J. McGraw as a manager. But he wasn't J. Edgar Hoover as a person, either. We already knew that.
What we know now is that Randolph was so much better than the men he worked for, it's as if they were playing a different game in a different league. What a fiasco. What a joke. Less than two years after Game 7, less than nine months from opening their signature ballpark, the Mets reveal themselves, again, for what they've been for too long.
A cheap, unfunny joke.
Run by a miserable cast of miscreants. Good for Randolph, Peterson and Nieto. They may not know this, but their lot in life just got a bit brighter, getting away from this batch of bums.

Mrs. Matt
Posts:101

06-17-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
Nick C - um, yes I am a Yankee fan, but I also happen to be a Mets fan and a baseball fan above all else. And I think I mentioned in my post THREE managers who were unfairly dumped and one of them was Joe Torre. I realize the Yankees have done the same thing, but just because other teams do it doesn't make it ok.

Cookie - wish I could help you out, but I can never get either of my 2 guys to get their pants back on! (threatening to cut it off hasn't worked for years, and I have a feeling Matt M is going to censor us now!)

xo
Sam's-a-fan
Posts:710

06-17-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
There is nothing inconsistent about having wanted Willie to go, and being disgusted by the way in which it was done. It is ownership's version of the cowardly way in which Pat Riley left the Knicks, which if you don't remember, was by fax.

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phillview
Posts:68

06-17-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
I'm oddly concerned - with Willie there was lethargy, stupor, indolence, a team asleep. What now? Not Willie's fault - he was smart a year and a half ago, a division winner, wasn't he? Still waffling on whether this is a good thing or a bad thing for Philly.

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Phil's brother
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06-17-2008 - SelecA - Alert 
"I need the secure packaging of Jockeys. My boys need a house!"
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